Saturday, 11.02.2012 - Welcome to web.com.na! Online: 1 Members, 61 Guests You are not logged in! Home | Forums   Forum Your last visit was: Saturday, 11.02.2012, 01:04 [ Search Forum ] Forum Home : Namibia : Political Discussions Displaying all 16 posts: Post Views: 3100 Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Black Revolutionary--(MMB) Number Posts: 1620 Last Post: 06.02.2012, 06:29 [ View User's Posts ] Wednesday, 17. March 2010 at 18:01 I think Kazenambo is going to far with his tribalism stuff. I think he’s vambos Probably because of his boss peter Iilonga or something, just my opinion He wants any tribe to be in the state house except vambo in democracy majority rules. how can u win if you're a minority? He apparently wants a baster president, but talking tribes is just not the right way It fules tribalism, maybe he should just mold a baster candidate to be better than the vambo candidates, in politic we dont follow just tribes, we want leadership quality There’s no communisim in Namibia. There are about 13 political parties and some with non vambo candidates and the fact that people don’t vote for those parties is Because they don’t mind from which tribe the candidate is. but rahter the party that brings hope. He’s always calling for A non vambo president. CoD was the second biggest party now it’s RDP and they all have wambo leaders and that’s a reflection that voters prefer who they prefer, wambo or whoever. maybe vamoes comes with a better offer Parties have been made in Kavango and a vambo Candidates still dominate in such places Let’s not tell people which tribe to vote for. Let people vote who they want Kazenambo is on a mission to vote vambos out of office His hate speeches toward vambos will divide this country and turn it into a second Kenya [Post edited by: Minding My Business on 17/3/10 6:03 PM] Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Vmboy sha Chaze Number Posts: 649 Last Post: 26.01.2012, 12:22 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 08:34 MMB,,, Kazenambo is right according to me. If we talk of leadership qualities, not only vambos have them, we have many tribes,,,, In Namibia, it already shows that it is difficult to become President if you are not a Wambo.. Just look at the likes of Hage Geingob, Theo Ben Gurirab,, whaat cost them not to become president,,, its coz they dont have the vambo blood in them... We know this tribal thing in namibia my dear. The only big post a non-owambo can climb to is the Prime Minister and from there down to square one. SO Kazenambo is right... Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Immortal-Himba Number Posts: 466 Last Post: 07.02.2012, 19:51 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 08:51 Kazenambo is right its not only the Vambos who have the neccesary qualities required to run this country as Vmboy is saying Hage deserve to be president bt he was denied this and pushed down because he aint vambo, as long as the Vambos think they can run this country just because they are vambos this country will always be on a back-foot...leading us into thorns is what they are doing! Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Kachokwe Number Posts: 280 Last Post: 10.02.2012, 09:28 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 09:26 Yes, Kazenambo is right, but we should learn to accept the facts i.e. the "Aawambo" are the majority in this country and in the democracy set up the majority rules. The fact that to became a president is not automatic so its difficult for minority groups to have one from them, and this does not mean their do not have leadership quality "NO". Presidential candidates normally are pointed from their respective political parties and if one does not get enough votes from the party's congress then, his or her chance to become a president is not very slim. Practical example is; when COD was formed in 1999 it got more seat than existing parties such NUDO, why? not that it has a good manfesto, because the president is from the majority groups. the same happened to last year election with RDP. So, its a matter of having massive support within the party or favored by an influential political figure to manipulate votes from your opponent/s. But, I foresee the next president of Namibia will be a non-Oshiwambo person, should SWAPO win to be in power again. [Post edited by: Kachokwe on 18/3/10 9:38 AM] Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Dinno Number Posts: 124 Last Post: 04.12.2010, 13:53 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 09:37 Namibians should accept that Kazenambo's proposal is based on tribalism. People, you all know how intelligent or powerful wamboes are. Power is determined by how genius a human being is. If you all want to prove how powerful wamboes are, take a look around your own vicinity, be it at your work place, be it in your class, music industry just to mention a few. Let me give you an example of my engineering class, we are 18, 2 hereros, 2 kavangos, 1 zulu, n 1 student from west Africa, the rest are all wamboes and that applies to all other institutions around the country and even abroad. Another important fact is that wamboes make up 95% of Namibia's workforce, so what do you expect, they made this economy and they are still steering it. I have come across many towns in Namibia where wamboes arent welcome to take up posts in those areas which proved those areas fruitless, taking an example of a town that required a town engineer, they couldnt easily fill up that post, untill they came back to their senses to give it to a wambo. Moreover, the best land in Namibia for investment purposes is where Owambos originate, everyone wants to make business in the north nowadays coz there's market. Owamboland is economically being escalated to another level by its own people, where the majority of those people are uneducated but very prominent in business. Let's take an example of Namibian politicians, let's say all opposition parties are joining SWAPO and you are given a mandate to elect a new SWAPO leader only from opposition leaders. We have from DTA, Katuutire Kaura, from Nudo, Chief Riruako, from RP, Dirk MUdge, from RDP, Hidipo Hamutenya, from COD, Ben Ulenga. Now tell me, who has the neccessary power and intelligence to lead this country from the group given above, is he not a wambo? For any other tribes to be able to lead Namibia, they should be capable of making political sense, they should be aggressive enough to lead the army where the majority of the soldiers are wamboes, must have qualities to negotiate business with global partners, must not be broke, i.e. must prove the capacity to bring up their kids decently with enough food to eat throughout the year, without letting them become street kids, i.e. must be hardworking and self-disciplined. Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Black Revolutionary--(MMB) Number Posts: 1620 Last Post: 06.02.2012, 06:29 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 11:18 Dimo you're right. i myself im not against a non wambo president but i just dont like the way Kazenambo puts it.his proposal is based on tribalism and we should be very careful that boy will fuel tribalism and demonstarations in this country with his tribal thing. a president must be elected from what ever tribe he is and not be appointed from a certain tribe. politics is not traditional authority where one has to be a tribalist or royal to that particular tribe . Vambo politicians never tell people to vote only vambo leaders and now Kazenambo is indirectly telling people not to vote for a vambo candidate in the next elections. that's tribalism In democracy majority rules Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? African Revolution Number Posts: 313 Last Post: 25.10.2011, 12:24 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 17:22 MMB kazenambo is not a racist, he just expressed his opinions just like you are expressing yours here. moreover you are sounding more racist here than kazenambo did . it is very unfortunate that you spoke of majority tribe and minority tribes in your post which i found misleading and politically incorrect. in politics you do not need to be from the majority tribe to be a president, Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso was not from the majority tribe, Obama is not from the majority tribe, khama of Botswana also , to mention but a few. get rid of that racial mentality brotherman, else are you now trying to tell me that there is a SWAPO-Owambo which is only can provide a president? and there are also others like SWAPO-kavango , SWAPO-Herero, SWAPO-Nama/damara etc.? MMb , here you are not sounding like a patriotic Namibian as you claim to be, So, you want to say other Namibians are second fiddle to ovawambo or what? if so , what happen to the cry of " ONE NAMIBIA , ONE NATION? finally, MMB, which Namibian constitution stipulate that only Wambos can be Presidents of Namibia? at last you are showing your true colours, hahahaha, [Post edited by: Uncle Radical Sem on 18/3/10 5:24 PM] Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? emblam Number Posts: 17 Last Post: 01.09.2010, 21:18 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 17:27 Nxt tym is u 2 bcm da First non-Vambos President????????????????????????? Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? African Revolution Number Posts: 313 Last Post: 25.10.2011, 12:24 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 17:35 who? MMB is a wambo, or you mean who emblam? Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Black Revolutionary--(MMB) Number Posts: 1620 Last Post: 06.02.2012, 06:29 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 19:39 I DONT REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO TRIBES, BUT KAZENAMBO TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT VAMBO CAN RISE EYE BROWS UNCLE-SEM I KNOW I CAN NEVER BE RIGHT AS FAR AS YOU'RE HERE BUT JUST ADMIT, CAMPAIGNING AGAINST ANOTHER TRIBE IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. HE'S CAMPAIGNING AGAINST VAMBOS Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? African Revolution Number Posts: 313 Last Post: 25.10.2011, 12:24 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 19:54 NO,NO, MMB i am not here to oppose whatever you say , i just can't agree with you when you say KK is a racist, simply because i do not think he is, Kazenambo is not campaigning against Vambos, he is campaigning against injustice, whereby you use your majority to sideline the minority. I am also tired of this whole thing of ovawambos dominating politics in our country, if SWAPO is real democratic then Hage should be the next president, period. Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Black Revolutionary--(MMB) Number Posts: 1620 Last Post: 06.02.2012, 06:29 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 18. March 2010 at 23:18 I didn't say he's a racist. we're talking about tribes and not races differentiate..there are several parties with non oshiwambo candidates but people vote the vambo candidates. now why do u want to blame the vambo tribe? blame the voters. some opposition with non vambo leaders cant even win in their own places of birth. voters have indicated that they're voting for who they want to vote for...Pohamba and Nuuyoma. COD and RDP where other tribes ever forced to vote for them? the elections were all free and fair to hell with Kazenambo. i see his true colors now Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Dinno Number Posts: 124 Last Post: 04.12.2010, 13:53 [ View User's Posts ] Friday, 19. March 2010 at 09:08 But Redical Uncle Sem, You are RDP, why do you have to stick your nose in SWAPOs business, do yourself a favour and join your leaders in boycotting. Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? THE MIGHTY CARETA Number Posts: 529 Last Post: 08.02.2012, 08:21 [ View User's Posts ] Friday, 19. March 2010 at 11:06 Dinno Counting your chickens before they hatch is a very dangerous habit, KK's issue is not a swapo issue its a national issue he has opened the door for debate, one tribe has been at the helm of GRN and not SWAPO for way too long, similar sentiments have been observed in SA where the first Zulu president was sworn in even though the Zulu's are the majority tribe in SA Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Dinno Number Posts: 124 Last Post: 04.12.2010, 13:53 [ View User's Posts ] Friday, 19. March 2010 at 12:25 You guys, unless u stop wamboes from taking part of the elections, there will always be a higher probability of a wambo leading coz in most situations, what 1 guy from anothr tribe has achievd, more than 50 wamboes hav dne, rather deplete em otherwys its logic, use ur brains ppl. Anyway, who do u guys suggest should be the 1st non owambo president, i wl go 4 theo ben? Re: Kazenambo against tribalism or Against wambo people? Kapuu Number Posts: 57 Last Post: 07.05.2010, 09:53 [ View User's Posts ] Tuesday, 23. March 2010 at 16:06 Maybe KK want to be the first non-oshivambo president, Can he? About other tribe to be our president is very very difficult. Let me tell you how our tribes are: 1. VAMBOES = hard worker, clever, tolerant, etc 2. DAMARAS = lazy, slow thinker, ons het net saam gekom,Etc. 3. HEREROS = easy to bribe, katongotongo, selfish, etc. 4. KAVANGOS = hard worker, hard to adapt town life, etc.5. COLOUREDS/BASTERS = like spending, their colour is provocative, chicken head.etc 6. NAMAS = lazy, brainwashed by whites, they can't keep money (kwanghalas). Let me hear from you.................. Post Views: 3100 Displaying all 16 posts: © 2012 web.com.na About | Press | Contact & Support | Terms & Conditions| Privacy | Imprint Designed for Namibia