 Do witchcraft (uulodi) really exist or just our imaginations? |
Dai
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| Wednesday, 24. February 2010 at 12:45 |
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I really fail to understand this concept! What is witchcraft, what causes it? I dont understand why people that looks the same with others can do things wierd. E.G turning himself into a cat, killing people unnoticeable. But how come this people are poor, i mean.....why dont they go in shops and take all without anyone noticing them or why dont the pass exams or interviews with flying colours? Cos if you can see someone from the inside, why cant you zoom yourself into question papers!
This is really funny and can make someone to go crazy, just to think of it!
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wisdom
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| Wednesday, 24. February 2010 at 12:57 |
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ya, i also worried. e.g. how can u boast up 1 business and u cant make urself rich? study problem, s ur kids all holding nice position or what s going on..... marryige problem and u re nt marry. why help other first.
how can u help other and nt ur self?????
sound strange!
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Vilage Boy
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| Wednesday, 24. February 2010 at 13:04 |
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Well Dai, It depend on individuals beliefs, some believe it exist and some not, some when they saw for instance a cat in a place were a cat should not be they call it hallucination and other go to the extent of saying some1 has turned into a cat. If there are people who have such power to change into different shapes, i regards them as blessed, but why they do not use such power for their own benefit? as u said they are starving and uneducated.And why they only use their power to make other suffer? Yeah its a crazy belief.
Is there a difference between witchcraft and Magic
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Vmboy sha Chaze
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| Wednesday, 24. February 2010 at 15:33 |
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Dai, some of the things exist but its difficult to believe they do. and witchcraft is one of them.
have you seen a magician performing live? I know you must have seen one coz many people did, but still people dont beilieve magic is for real.
Even if someone can witch the other in front of people, still you wouldnt believe.
I have seen magician performing, I mean with my own eyes and they say to believe is to see, but human being will still not believe even if you bring it in his/her own eyes.
Here is my conclusion on withccraft.
1. It exists and is reality
2. It is another way of technology (let me say african or ancient technolgy)
3. It is quickly coming to an extinct coz it is not documented
4. It is a kind of technology that is not performed daylight always coz it has many taboos
I have proof that roots can be used as medicine and they work.
I have proof that a man can turn himself into an animal
and many more.
So argue if you want to argue but am from the part of the country where you start to cee witch doctors just the time you start opening your eyes.
WItchcraft is reality, and it is about beliefs.
If a white man can make a plane fly, a black man can make him/herself fly.
Lets not be blinded by western technology just because it is plainly written for anybody to do.
Africans have proven to whites in many ways that there is a kind of technology that god just gave them,, e.g Some scientist ones argued that no one can start the fire with two sticks. This is just an example people....
Okey, enuf... But witchcraft is for realllllllllllllllllllll.
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Mr. Skeleton
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| Wednesday, 24. February 2010 at 15:53 |
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Dont bother yourself with that one Dai..
Honestly you can neva understand that it exists unless you were one of the witches my dear.
The operation of witchcraft is a closed secret for us who operate in the game,ok....
So please, its good to ask questions but you wont get an answer coz you are not a player of the game,
I am a player in the game so i understand how it is played but i cant tell you on this open forum, ok.
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Way
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| Wednesday, 24. February 2010 at 16:14 |
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Guys witchcraft do exist , witchcraft its just a devil, and does not associate with theft, thats why they can not steal , that will never happen in Million years, anyone can be a witch if you want to, its something you can gain from the Devil, the same Devil u read in the Bible, i mean satan Devil, that's Witchcraft, that's why if you a Christian , but i'm not just tolking about christian becouse u are babtised, but when u receive Jesus chirist in you, then u will never be witched, never ever, witch can only wich people that are not with God.
But the Devil do not have the power to steal,
if u guys need more in depth details i can eraborate more
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ferrari
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| Wednesday, 24. February 2010 at 16:43 |
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Witchcraft does exist especially in African's communities, i do not know about others. What i heard from my grandparents is: apparently sum pipol were born with that power (meaning they inherited it from their forefathers) & whether they like it or not there is nothing they can do about it. However, there are those who were not born as witches & they go 2 witchcraft masters to turn them into witches. On the part of witches being poor & starving, I have no doubt that they are like that because those people are being used by the devil (satan yemwene) to destroy and make others suffer and in the process satan is also destroying thm. The devil doesn't like to see anybody (except himself) happy & succeed, so there is no way satan will allow the witches to be rich. the only power the devil gave to witches is the power 2 destroy, it can be themself or others.
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Dai
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| Thursday, 25. February 2010 at 14:19 |
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Ok! This is really wierd and it makes me just to develop goose-bumps and can just cry,,,cos i really get afraid of this things...cos if it can seen, then one has to run away. I once say a magician performing and i just ran away, cos i dont want to see funny things. There was also a time, when a friend of mine used to tell me that he always see an arm or a body without a head when ever he is sleeping or a naked ex-galfriend that he has dumped. Seriously, this can make someone to go crazy!
Another example is a 12 year old gal, a daughter of my male-cousin, this lady apparently she used to talk during the night since she was a small gal. and due to her immaturity, she doesnt know to hide anything, when asked, she always say she was talking to her grandfather (her mom's dad) and they went flying bra bra, that his granpa was teaching her abc......this is really funny.
Jez, i am even losing it!
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Dai
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| Thursday, 25. February 2010 at 14:21 |
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No, just tell us! If you guys are saying that it is a blessing, it is obvious that one can share such blessing with us....we also want to know, tu kale ha tu mu hedha kokule waa! Taxi's have got numbers, why cant we also paint witches for identification purposes.
I withdraw
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Jannety
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| Thursday, 25. February 2010 at 15:26 |
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I don't understand this how can a person change him/herself to a cat? iam afraid of people now coz you don't know who is a witch and who is not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I don't regard them as human being.even my boyfriend iam going to ask him 2day if he is a witch
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Sweetest girl
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maybe its just imagination...bt th thot of it,freaks me out! maybe its jst th brain tht tricks us n make us see thngs tht aint true.....tho i dnt undrstnd th whole thing.
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Dai
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Jannety, it seems like that these is just a phenomena that we have to live with. The only problem is only that you dont know who is one and who is not. Hahahaha, Jane, what if he tells you that he is a witch? Ho, will you leave him? I will rather not ask, cos i will just collapse! I guess we just need to pray not to get associate with a witch, cos one will live an unbearable life.
A cousin of mine got married (years ago) to a long time boyfriend, just to find out on their wedding night, when they were ready to do it, the husband telling her that he has to sleep with a gecko first before he (husband) can sleep with her. the husband warned her not to tell anyone. She thought it was a joke, cos he has been with the guy for a long time and he never told her about his staffs. The husband went out and all of a sudden was a big gecko, a size of a crocodile, coming in the room straight between her legs............she got frightened and jumped out of the room, straight to tell the people who were outside of what happened. She went crazy, cos she told the people although she was warned.
She was healed and now they are back with the husband.....just imagine....seeing such a person for the rest of your life
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Jannety
Eish, kakadhona ngweee......... Ok, go ask you dude to find out but no wonder if he will tel the trueth.............
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| Thursday, 25. February 2010 at 19:37 |
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AME NAAME KANDI SHISHI WAA. JST DO RESEARCH MY DIA. BT REMEMBR THT CURIOSITY KILLD TH CAT.
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IK
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Witchcraft is the traditional technology. The problem is that it is not put to the best use. Something which everybody can use or benefit from. Try to immagine of Cellphones ( the latest technology, is it that easy to immagine? but because everybody is using it and is benefiting from it, you don't really mind about it.)
Just like Magic, Witchcraft is the trick of the Highest order.
IK
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i think the witches are excisting becacuse they use to disturb me when i m sleeping. if a witch approach u, u loose all the power, u cant move any part of your body, even to open your eyes u cannot, so than they do what ever they want on your body. i m talking out of experience. but i cannot differentiate who is a witch and who is not. especially at the village these baggers can disturb too much
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Elaeti.nam
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Yoo!! The ghecko story is kinda scary Dai. (Owa fa ngaa una ekalata. ;-) )
They say if you don't believe in it, then it will not affect you. I think if you believe in witchcraft you will limit yourself, thinking that if you succeed witches will come after you. I heard a guy say He won't go in business because apparently he does not have anything to hold on when witches come after him (aniwa ke na mpa iikwatelela.
Crap. Just because one was not born in a so-called ndjongo family does not mean one cannot achieve his or her dreams. But one should not show off too much, rather stay humble and keep your success to yourself, just in case it really exist.
The believe in witchcraft is probably why many people never wanna upgrade their parent's rural houses because they are scared.
The sad part of this belief is that, some people are convinced that to protect/empower themselves they need to do some muti rituals like killing other people to provide some body parts to a witchdoctor. (ie muti killings). I think it is all just pure crap. There were incidents in some Central African country were albino skinned people were being killed for muti.
I think both the practice and belief in witchcraft is some how ngoo backward and an obstacle to the way forward.
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On the subject of magic:
I think Magic is the art of tricking people's mind which has nothing to do with witchcraft. There are people who play tricks with cards and if you don't know how to do it you will think kutya the person shapo oku na posha, but once you learn it you will find that it is very simple.
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Kapuu
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Ai Ai Ai! If you talk about it night time you won't sleep but to be honest I think witchcraft is rubbish. I grown up in the house where there used to be funny things in the isolated room/hut. One day while my cousin was playing with the fire the whole house got burnt with all funny like animals while my uncle was at the cucashops. What happened next? NOTHING.
Magic in my opinion is a tricky game like 'Tala nawa'
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scarlet
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to be totally honest i DONT believe in african withcraft.European witchcraft i do....and sorry to say it but some things some of you people say is bullshit.because iam a witch i pratice white magic and wicca there are 3 laws in the witchcraft world and they are,
1.Do what you will as long as it harms none;
2.Do what you will as long as you don't interfere with anyone else's free will;
3.That wich you send out returns to you threefold.
And if this is not obeyed your magic will not work this is what we witches call "The Threefold Law''
then you get some people who think thier so smart and know everything about witchcraft they make up stereotype that everyone believes e.g witches apperently ride around on broomsticks.The answer they dont but broomsticks are used to clean sacred altars....someone also said something about if you come in cantact with a witch you cannot move that is unrealistic.OK totally false and im not saying i know everthing but some things you people write is wrong and funny as hell...Seriosly its inlogic to turn a person into a animal only experts and Shamans can do that.Shamans are western indians who have contact with the animal world and the spirit world.And the last thing,Witches can not hurt people mabye Hex but that is totally differant.The thing you people are refering to is WITCHDOCTERS not witches and please dont act like you know about witchcraft if you dont....
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scarlet
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i believe you but the thing that you are wrong in is that witchcraft was not founded in africa..the true origin of witchcraft is in europe i also agree witchcraft is real for i am a witch but were everyone is wrong about witchcraft is that you can apperantly make youself rich or fly or even turn yourself into a animal witchcraft is based on inner auras and chakras to tap into the universes powers and be one with nature so believe if you want to or dont.witchcraft aka wicca is a damn religion and sometimes a activity and witchcraft as been used in africa for thousands of years but in europe tens of thousand years thats how they blamed joan of arc and Jane horne,anna goldi of witchcraft
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I am aware of the presence of a Enochian mage in Windhoek but he hasn't been upto much mischieve
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Angeltjie
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We must stop being ignorant. Magic, witchcraft, uulodi or what ever, they exist. we have seen and heard of people talking about it. they are talking not to boast but because they are sick and tired of being disturbed when resting or they just dont have peace in their lives. You may not believe in witchcraft but you have to know that they exist.
I personally know of people who have family members who are so called possessed by deamons. Some lost family members because such people use to hear voices telling them to go kill themselves and they really do. when a person tell you such a story, you kinda sit silently and think deep down whether what you are hearing is for real. its crazy staff and it easly freaks an ordinary person like me and you who know nothing.
Real life story (but cant confirm): Tuesday newspaper The Namibian 03/05/2011, oshiwambo part, there is an article with an insert telling how the people suffer from misterious things happening in their homestead, things are being moved out of rooms without seeing who is removing them.they need people to help them and prey for them because they cant help themselves.
Last year, there was a school reported in the Newspapers of pupils suffering from dirty Spirits (eemepo danyata).
Again, there is a house in Windhoek West that is not occupeied because every new owner that settle in that house does not rest. funny noices everywhere.
We hear of some foreigners who sell in the street from house to house that their flowers keep dancing on the table when they are bought, opening freezes in houses and dancing. what is that?
The Main road when in Owamboland between Ondangwa and Omuthiya, if you travelled that side, there are always goodies being sold along side the main road. they sleep there when sunset comes. I heard of a story that you will never remove any of those goodies if you are not buying them. if you attempt to steal. whether you like it or not, you will return them or you will not use them at all. sometimes just before after you pick them up you freeze (wakukutikwa) until the owner finds you.its scary but it happend. i dont want to see to believe all this.
At the border side-Oshikango to be exact. If you travelled inside Angola through this boarder, you find this guys having a lot of money,from US dollars, Nam Dollars and Kwanzas for exchange purposes. No body dare rob those guys. they have a History of revenge if you mess with them. they wont even chase you when you rob them for thier money. for they know how to work you out nicely. Those who are inside Namibia also, Aambwela, they are well known for witchraft.you wont rob them and get away with it.
How many times have you seen a person in a street standing at a robots here in Whk? not one or two you have seen, but they are more then that. you ask yourself, what happened to them? what did they do to be like that? who knows? Akutiwa, inoshikwata, shilopota, some people have longs hands and they end up being useles (bewitched)
Witches differ, some have a way of attacking you in the night and not sleep at all, some turn themselves into funny creatures as others already have said, some just make you look like hell for life (toyeya, tolinine,elai lili aike opo.
There are those who are naughty that just wanna try their staff on anybody.and there are those who just retaliate for doing them wrong like (some) Aambwela for sure.i know.
Truth is. Witchraft is there.Dont wait for it to attack you to believe.
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loldongs
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I think I should clarify this a bit. the world has become a multicultural mess. you not just facing one form of pratice. in fact the only true believe systems left are these occultists. meanwhile cults like the catholics etc. seem to have a seperate goal. they enjoy tax exemption as well as using the donation for their own benefits.
Afterall 87% of child pornography has been tracked back the christian establishments.
I feel much safer is the presence of a demonic entity than a christian.
eitherway speaking of the mess of culture we are seeing new esoritic systems comes together which is quite not ok. for those not familiar with esoterism. it is like having a knowledge ranging from the beginning to the end and able to add the changes you desire. People who openly call themselves Pagans, Shamans, warlocks etc. are not so they just do it to seem have a power.
If a house is a problem and the spirit refuses to leave I can give you contact details to the enochian to sort it out Enochian pratcticioners have been known to have full control other entities living and dead it is also partially where necromancy originates.
just contact me at loldong@hushmail.com i will give you his contact details
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0Delta-X
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unona ne ota mu pula shike? Ngele uulodhi oko wu li? Last weekend i went komukunda wumwe wu li kuukwanyama hwii....Epinga. Tse nookuume kandje yaakwanyama (Niingo yaNaanda included) ota tu yi puundingosho osho. Polwaamba natse opwa li pu na aakulukadhi yaakulupe yaali taya kundathana yi itula mo, ashike otaya popile pevi kashona. Tashi ulike kutya oonkundathana dhawo odha li dha kwata miiti. Ngame nee wokoshitambi sha Nehale sho ndi hole oku uva nawa, onda kala nde ya pulakena nosendi. Tse tatu popi ngaa nayakwetu.
"Eshi wu wete pokamba yaMbalukutu iha pu ende vali ovanhu opo, nima oo ke li nawa". Omukulupe gumwe osho a lombwele mukwao, Ngame Nambwa dhe dhi yaka po nale. Ta tsikile:
"Mhhhh......yee mwene iha longifa ngoo ngeno omiti ashike ovanhu ovo voludi la Mbwalungudju iha va dana. Mumwange Mbalukutu okwe tu lila po Ndoli opo. Ndoli a kala ngoo ta yungula omaonda kolange. Ndele paife ota diya ashike omayeye. Vati osha diilila ngoo peengobe da Mbalukutu da puma koshuunda do otadi iteyele mepya la Ndoli. Mbela okudja opo Ndoli ha kwa ka pula nee Mbalukutu e mu futile po oilya yaye! Mbalukutu osho osho nee inaa panda". Vati okwa tameka ashike ta ti fwifwii a fa eyoka leuta.
"Ndoli kalume ove aame to futifa oilya, shiima ove noulai woye kofingo ho nangala ashike wa kofa wa fa nyamanyama manga ounona vakweni hatu lyata oshilongo. Otamu ti nee hano eshi hamu longo omaonda okolange uuyamba omwe wu tyafula? Opo handi ku tale shilai ove. Kolange ito shuna ko vali oko."
Vati ngoo e shi Mbalukutu a popya ngaho ye ota ningi hamutwe-hakafidi ambulunganena Ndoli. Monawange shilishili Ndoli onguloshi oyo ha kwa tambulwa moshipangelo shaEenhana. Ndele vati ota kungu ashike oilya. Okudja opo Ndoli a nyonauka. Paife oyoo ashike ta diya omayeye. I, oye winya tadi kwinya nokuli.....oyoo tadhi oko a tya oshako yi na eendooha noihati yoilya. Mbalukutu eshi mu ninga po hewa.
Z-Series pethimbo ndjoka okwa kala a pulakena nawa oonkundathana dhaakulupe mbaka yaali yaakwanyama. Nkene ndu uvu kwa tiwa Ndoli oye ngoka tadhi hono a tya oshako yoondooha sho nda ka yelutha omeho omokashamane ka tya eshako la ndumbala loo tali ti kwelekwele. Ombwale ya tsima yo ya tya oombezi dha hwanyukila neyeye la tsa pevi. Aniwa oye nee Ndoli ngoka ta popiwa kaakulupe a longwa mo kuMbalukutu.
Aakulupe oya tsikile noonkundathana dhawo mupya munene, we have to drive for Ondangwa. But now i want to go to Eanhana hospital to ask about the patient who have been vomiting oilya. True or not?
SOURCE: "The Ghost whisper"
Editor: Niingo yaNaanda
So some they say witchcraft is for real.......but me too 0Delta-X ondi mu lodhi, shaashi ohandi li iithima oshiponga. Nuunona (uucheli for the good) ngoo ashike ihandi ya mane po nee, not to die. Excuse me and sorry for the language.
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Angeltjie
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Hehee ODelta bra. you eat them but you dont finish them?! You even eat porriedge like no other.!LOL
Nice one there. well articulated. thanks for a short story. tell those who are still confused and yet ignorant.Life is full of wonders.
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